44th & Camelback VNB meeting / Historic Pres. Commission

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44th & Camelback VNB meeting / Historic Pres. Commission

Postby PixelPixie » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:02 pm

From Donna Reiner, Phoenix Historic Preservation Commission member:

The Frank Henry-designed VNB bank building at 44th St. & Camelback will be on the agenda at the next Phoenix Historic Preservation Commission meeting, May 21, 2007 at 4:30. The meeting should be in the Historic City Hall Subcommittee Room, 2nd Floor (17 South 2nd Ave). The agenda always includes an opportunity for public comment. The agenda will be available online the friday before the meeting.

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Postby mchaves » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:15 pm

Thanks for posting this -- there is a good chance I'll be back in town later in May and if I can coordinate it to overlap with this meeting I'm there. I'm going to add it to my calendar now!

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Postby sparkytect 1985 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:04 pm

Is there a reason it's on the agenda? It's not possibly on the chopping block is it?
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Postby Circa50 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:13 pm

Soon to be.

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Postby mchaves » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:32 pm

Can someone fill me in on the current status of this building -- what is the owner perspective, what do they want to do with the property (level it, I'm sure -- but is there a specific development plan that anyone knows of?)

Does the Historic Preservation Commission have any power to intervene before their long-term study is complete? Who in the local government would have the authority to halt demo of this property, especially considering it is on the study list? If we could find a name, maybe we could get a petition going, at the very least. I'm sure the owner is looking at the timeline for that study and wants to get their deal done before any historic status is placed on the property.

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Postby sparkytect 1985 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:42 pm

Wow. I'm still trying to digest the idea that the old VNB building could be torn down. But having seen the Washburn Piano building fall recently, I have to wonder, is nothing sacred?
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Postby Circa50 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:47 pm

Opus West has been showing around plans to flatten the bank and build expensive "villas" and a commercial development. The Arcadia neighborhood says it will stand and fight to the bitter end.


http://www.azcentral.com/blogs/index.php?blog=306&title=destroying_walter_bimson_s_legacy&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1&blogtype=PhxPluggedin

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Postby sparkytect 1985 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:02 pm

Hmmm. Most likely "Tuscan Villas". Gag me!
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Postby mchaves » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:10 am

I should have guessed -- villas. Aren't there enough "luxury" villas in town already?

I suppose my questions are for the meeting and I really hope I can be there.

Haven't any of those smart developers ever considered working around a significant property or...heaven forbid...incorporating it into a new plan? It isn't ideal, but sometimes it is the only compromise. I know it is a radical concept and likely above the heads of most developers -- one of these days the Phx developers are finally going to be faced with more historic preservation and they'll be forced to learn this. I just hope it comes soon...

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Opus West files for rezoning of 44th Street and Camelback

Postby Tabletoo » Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:04 am

This is from the May 2007 Arcadia News (page 11). Arcadia News is a free newspaper found at lots of locations near Arcadia and delivered to homes in the greater Arcadia area. I tried to find this article online but did not see it so I'll try to type it in. It sounds like the bank building itself will be left standing if this is approved.

Opus West has filed for a rezoning for the 44th Stree and Camelback Bank location. The plan is to develop the park-like open space and part of the parking lot directly east of the bank.

Replacing the 1.3 acre footprint will be approximatelt 100,000 square feet of mixed use development, including condos and retail that would stand approximately 56 feet tall.

The historically significant bank site was completed in 1968. With the unique mushroom style columns and Fred Flintstone feel, the bank has become an icon in Arcadia.

Area newcomers are often fascinated by the artsy courtyard and museum quality surroundings, while some seasoned residents still recall the original ground-breaking.

This architectural marvel was designed by Frank Henry of the firm Weaver and Drover.

Considering that there are no guarantees that this rezoning will come to fruition, Opus West definitely has a lot of work to do.

Residents are lined up to fight even the loss of the open space, while local developers see this filing as a sign of progress.

The site's rezoning will be a landmark case for Arcadia since this has the potential to guide future development.

Currently two other developers are waiting on the sidelines to see how this rezoning case will affect the corner of 44th Street and Camelback.

Both Camelsquare and Grace Communities have filed pre-application site plans with the City of Phoenix Planning Department.

Their combined efforts could leave this intersection forever changed in the next five years. Neighbors are hopeful that the result will not be another 10 Londen Centers.
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Postby JC » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:45 pm

I sure hope so!
Just hope the City reads the fine print...
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Postby azpreservation » Sat May 05, 2007 2:28 pm

The Arcadia Camelback Mountain Neighborhood Association (ACMNA) has received official notice of a neighborhood "open house," sponsored by OPUS Development, about the rezoning of the "Bank Site." It is scheduled for 6 PM, Monday, May 14, at Prince of Peace Lutheran Church, 3641 N. 56th Street, Phoenix.

Per the letter, "the specific request is to rezone a 4.8 acre site located on the southeast corner of 44th Street and Camelback Road from C-1, P-1, and RE 24, to C-1 to allow for construction of a vertically oriented mixed use development."

The plan envisioned by OPUS is to preserve the bank, and build on the open space, which according to ACMNA and the Greater Phoenix Neighborhood Coalition, is part of the overall historic property and its cultural context and setting. Says ACMNA board member Roger Brevoort, "The site cannot be split apart. It is all one resource. Several of the famous 'mushroom columns' stand on the open space area that is directly threatened."

To voice your support of the preservation of the bank and adjacent open space, attend the May 14 meeting. Note that the City of Phoenix Historic Preservation Commission will also discuss the 44th & Camelback property at its Monday, May 21, 2007 meeting (4:30 p.m., second floor, Historic City Hall, SW corner of 1st Avenue and Washington in downtown Phoenix).

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Postby modernlover » Sat May 05, 2007 5:42 pm

I will be there.

I have a really loud voice, and I'll use it if I have to...

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Postby modernlover » Mon May 14, 2007 12:06 am

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Postby PixelPixie » Tue May 15, 2007 11:16 am

How did the meeting go?


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