Haver Or Haver not 12 th st and Montebello

[gdguy]

I aquired one of the three duplex's located between 5670and 5680 n 12th st .They appear to be almost the same as the GlenRosa gemini homes near arcadia... with it's proximity to marlin grove it would appear that those three duplex/patio homes were designed by Haver,other than the tell tale signs of design and construction How can I confirm the design/ builder of these . Where would I go to access those records??????? Has anyone confirmed these three buildings. Thanks for any help you can give ....I would like to preserve the duplex as it was designed. Thanks

[cornelia]

Can you post some good pictures?
I did a ton of research for this neighborhood for my own house, may be some " unused"info is triggered by the images.
Also follow Allisons research tips, really helpful.

[gdguy]

I will attempt to post some pic's .....Computer dummy you know..... The Pueblo Bonita Duplex pictured in the neighborhood section on this website apears to be an exact { other than the cosmetic elevation} duplicate of the one located on the corner of 12th st and Montebello. according to this website Haver,Nunn and Collamer were the designers. It is unclear whether that particular duplex pictured has been verified as such. The kitchens in the duplex on 12th st have curved walls. Thanks for your interest Gdguy

[PixelPixie]

Your subdivision is Montebello Park but the County Assessor's website does not want to give the subdivision plat map to me right now, will try again later. Sometimes you get lucky and they put the architect's name on the map, that's how I was able to confirm Pueblo Bonita and Avenida Hermosa. I would not be surprised at all to find out these were Haver developments and would be curious to compare to Pueblo Bonita.

In the year 1964 Haver's portfolio lists something called "12th Street Gang Duplexes" and I have always wondered if these or something near here were them. Haver did tons and tons of apartments/multifamily during this time. 12th street was his main drag for experimentation.

Hope this helps and the next step is to go to the library and look up original owners as suggested in the 1960s phone books. If the owners were Haver family, colleagues, friends, known clients, etc then you've probably found the "12th Street Gang"! Let me know, and I'll post here if/when the Assessor's website coughs up the plat map.

http://www.modernphoenix.net/researchhomepart1.htm

[brenta]

Allison,
Recently I've had issues getting plat maps too. Do you get a blank white screen where the maps used to be? Right click on the white screen and download the PDF to the desktop. I'm not sure why they don't seem to work very well lately, but this has been working for me.

[PixelPixie]

OK finally got the plat map. Montebello Place was subdivided in 1958 and only the engineering firm is listed on the map, Hanen H. Williams.

[gdguy]

Thanks for searching that out Is it possible for you to send that to me E-mail or can you put it on the website? I tried to up load some pic's but i guess they are too large .I will have to work with them later . We are doing a major clean up at the site over the next week or so. It will eventually be available to rent. I think this is a very interesting property. Very well built........thanks

[PixelPixie]

Here ya go.

[PixelPixie]

Here are the photos!

[steve.n.stace]

Wow, that curved kitchen is pretty amazing!

[PixelPixie]

I'm going to go see it tomorrow! I have seen a Haver with a curved kitchen detail but I'm not sure if it is original or not, finding out soon.

[PixelPixie]

Ever since I moved to uptown and pass this home on my daily commute I've been waiting for a chance to see these duplexes. After touring it today, I'm pretty sure this is the "12th Street Gang Duplexes" mentioned in the Haver portfolios. I believe these may have been showcase homes for replication elsewhere, like as suggested Pueblo Bonita.

http://www.modernphoenix.net/pueblobonita.htm

If they look a little European in influence to you, you're spot on, this was the selling trend at the time. Greek, Mediterranean, Middle Eastern were all popular flavors in development in the late 60s and early 70s.

The details in the kitchen, bath, front door, back wall and front exterior lighting all point to the Haver firm's transition into multifamily housing, which is where the market led them. The greens are a creamy avocado and in the kitchen cabinets, almost a glistening emerald. The bath has marble with a green streak and the tile is spattered green glaze. Even the doorbell is stylish, and more uropean than modern. But it was the exterior lighting that had me at hello.

Around that time period, Haver's firm employed James Salter AIA as their interiors and finishes designer. Some say he was responsible for the total look of the Kon Tiki and the Cine Capri, and very much involved in the Arizona Bank (The Vig Uptown). Around that golden age of the early to mid 60s, they started doing in-house designs for lighting and chandeliers, much of which you can find streetside in Phoenix today, especially the Avenida Hermosa, Casa Hermosa and related complexes. You can also find them inside their furniture stores. A gigantic chandelier salvaged from another location is to be found in Jimmie Nunn's own Flagstaff chalet. It was so large, they had to cut it in two and then port it inside for reassembly.

After taking a look at these lanterns and the finishes, I am hedging my bets that this is the 12th Street Gang that I have been searching for, as a perfect bridge into the Pueblo Bonita duplexes. I think we have found a missing link here and I'll work toward validating it through my various channels. If I'm wrong, I'll gladly stand corrected. What a fun experience and adventure to puzzle this out!

[matthew]

Neat!

And that lantern does look very consistent with the other lighting fixtures we've seen in Haver projects. Five years ago I would have never thought that this wrinkle-glass/wrought-iron Brady-Bunch style of lighting fixture would become an identifying mark of the firm.

[gdguy]

Hello All !!! Just an update on the duplex. We have taken on a total clean up and have just about got it whipped..... New carpet ,paint ,tile floors, new kitchen sink , new faucets through out, every thing is Fresh Fresh Fresh............ The more time I spend at the property the better I like it . It will be ready for rent to it's new loving Tenants on August 1st.... This duplex is 1800 sq feet with Huge rooms and a great Layout...2 bedrooms 2 bathrooms and carport parking for 2 It has a huge walled in back yard with a built in gas BBQ... and a great laundry room/ storage area. We will post some up dated pics around the 22nd of July Oh yeah its 1200 per month... Thanks For the interest..... and Thanks to Alison for the help and research... I know it is time consuming ...